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Darth Sarge
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    Fleet and Defences

    Najus
    Najus
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    Post  Najus Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:39 am

    I thought it'd be interesting to find out the average fleet and defences of the alliance..

    Darth Gaius' Fleet.

    43 Small Cargo
    57 Large Cargo
    59 Light Fighter
    16 Heavy Fighter
    19 Cruiser
    8 Battleship
    2 Battlecruiser
    3 Recycler
    181 Espionage Probe

    Dath Gaius' Defences.

    Caprica:
    1800 RL
    1200 LL
    25 GC
    100 IC
    20 PT
    1 SSD
    1 LSD
    40 ABM

    Sagittaron:
    179 RL
    158 LL
    3 GC
    9 IC
    1 PT
    1 SSD

    Tauron:
    147 RL
    101 LL
    3 GC
    7 IC
    1 PT
    1 SSD

    Gemenon:
    44 RL
    78 LL
    1 GC
    6 IC
    1 PT

    Scorpia:
    25 RL
    14 LL
    3 GC
    3 IC
    1 SSD

    Got a Plasma Turret on all planets but my newest one...


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    darth tiridactil
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    Post  darth tiridactil Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:02 pm

    i propose we should also discuss what would be the best fleet ratio and the best def ratio

    for example on ogame wiki the suggest defense would be:

    # 1 Light Laser for every 2 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Heavy Laser for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Ion Cannon for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Gauss Cannon for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Plasma Turret for every 100 Rocket Launcher

    it is supposed to be the best ratio against fleet made of Cruiser, Battle Ship, Destroyer and Battlecruiser.

    what do you guys think?


    P.S.:how come you don't have any HL??
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    Post  Darth Pickle... Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:06 pm

    darth tiridactil wrote:i propose we should also discuss what would be the best fleet ratio and the best def ratio

    for example on ogame wiki the suggest defense would be:

    # 1 Light Laser for every 2 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Heavy Laser for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Ion Cannon for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Gauss Cannon for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Plasma Turret for every 100 Rocket Launcher

    it is supposed to be the best ratio against fleet made of Cruiser, Battle Ship, Destroyer and Battlecruiser.

    what do you guys think?


    P.S.:how come you don't have any HL??

    I like that equation
    Darth Sarge
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    Post  Darth Sarge Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:24 pm

    im gonna be putting a 2-1 ratio on my ships/defenses. although where im at, i dont have much of a choice on what i have. and heres what i have

    Reach:
    Light Figher-5
    Heavy Fighter-1
    Small Cargo-3
    Rocket Launcher-10
    Light Laser-4

    at the moment, im 1 laser tech research level away from Heavy Lasers, some what close to getting a Cruiser available to me, 2 combustion drive levels away from Large Cargo ships. and 1 espionage tech away from astrophysics.

    thats mainly what im concentrating on getting at the moment in addition to getting my reasources up. any tips?
    Darth Krayt
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    Post  Darth Krayt Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:48 pm

    My fleet was just destroyed, but I am rebuilding. I have.

    102sc, 173lc, 50resycler, 20cr, 90bs, 175bc, 10bb, 25des

    Defense on Khar Shian.
    4,231rr, 674ll, 326hl, 103gs, 153ion, 115pt both shields.

    I have some def on my other planets, but sense I keep my fleet and all my res
    on Khar Shian thats were most of my def is.

    Twisted Evil


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    Post  Najus Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:00 am

    darth tiridactil wrote:i propose we should also discuss what would be the best fleet ratio and the best def ratio

    for example on ogame wiki the suggest defense would be:

    # 1 Light Laser for every 2 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Heavy Laser for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Ion Cannon for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Gauss Cannon for every 20 Rocket Launcher
    # 1 Plasma Turret for every 100 Rocket Launcher

    it is supposed to be the best ratio against fleet made of Cruiser, Battle Ship, Destroyer and Battlecruiser.

    what do you guys think?


    P.S.:how come you don't have any HL??

    I don't have HL because I worked out that if you spend the same resources on HL as LL (4LL = 1 HL) you get less attack....
    Also I'm just spamming defences to try and get to the levels that the ogame wiki proclaims an uber-turtle... I'm not really bothered about 'the perfect ratio'
    My fleet is split into 2 expedition groups about 70-80% of the time so nobody can get it without a phalanx or luck...

    [EDIT] Okay, went over the numbers again:
    For the same amount of resources (6000 Metal, 2000 Crystal)
    (Base Values)

    Heavy Laser (1)
    Structural Integrity: 8000
    Shield Strength: 100
    Attack Strength: 250

    Light Laser (4)
    Structural Integrity: 8000
    Shield Strength: 100
    Attack Strength: 400


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    Darth Vectivus
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    Age : 38
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    Post  Darth Vectivus Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:04 am

    Ok here is mine:
    Total Fleet:
    Light Fighter: 141
    Heavy Fighter: 42
    Cruiser: 58
    Battleship: 109
    Battlecruiser: 22
    Bomber: 43
    Destroyer: 7
    Small Cargo: 58
    Large Cargo: 115
    Recycler: 34
    Spy Probe: 285
    Solar Satellite: 2347 (88% are for Graviton)

    Defense will be by planet. 7 planets.
    RL:2250/2000/1770/1800/1200/1200/160
    LL:970/750/705/750/525/400/40
    HL:171/120/125/125/106/70/13
    GC:33/22/20/25/20/13/1
    IC:204/101/82/90/98/51/18
    PT:20/17/20/22/15/16/4
    SSD:1/1/1/1/1/1/1
    LSD:1/1/1/1/1/1/1
    ABM:20/10/10/12/11/10/3
    IPM:4/0/1/0/0/0/0

    There you go. Looks like I have to work on the Gauss Cannons the most!
    The 7th planet only has so little because it was only colonised 2 weeks ago.
    The 7th planet will get destroyed once Graviton Tech is finished.
    Fleet is also smaller due to attacks from players like freestyler (Ranked 3rd).
    darth tiridactil
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    Post  darth tiridactil Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:52 pm

    Darth Gaius
    the problem with LL is that if someone attacks with heavy fodder u won't be able do destroy as many as you would with HL

    try simulating your def against LF and you'll see it is better with HL

    now the question is: do raiders use heavy LF fodder?

    personnally i do so i make my def in consequence.
    Darth Sarge
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    Post  Darth Sarge Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:04 pm

    its also good to have weaker weapons and ships so that the stronger ones have less chance of getting damaged or destroyed. Eclipsa taught me that XD
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    Post  Darth Millennial Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:19 pm

    As of now......

    Fleet:
    LF:70
    HF:14

    Defences:
    RL:50
    LL:20
    GC:2
    IC:5
    Small Shield Dome up. Large Dome upping soon

    Research:
    Weapon:7
    Shield:6
    Armour:6


    Plan:
    Get Nanite Factory ASAP.
    Mass Ion Cannons after Large Shield Dome is up.
    Build tons of HF and LF in ratio 1:5.
    Get Bomber ASAP.
    Build an early Death Star.
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    Post  Darth Rivan Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:28 pm

    Ok, Hi everyone. Here are my stats:

    Korriban (h/w: 1:104:7)
    Ships:
    Lf: 5
    Sc: 2
    Esp: 10

    Defense:
    RL:100
    LL:44
    HL:9
    GC:2
    IC:7
    SSD:1

    Ruusan (1st Colony 1:98:Cool (Re-building Phase)
    Ships:
    Cr: 1
    Esp: 5

    Defense:
    LL: 5

    Ziost (2nd Colony 3:314:Cool
    Ships:
    Lf: 5
    Sc: 6
    Lc: 2
    Rcy: 1
    Esp: 20

    Defense:
    RL: 15
    LL: 15
    HL: 2
    GC: 1
    IC: 7
    SSD: 1

    Kesh (3rd Colony 3:329:Cool
    Ships:
    Lf: 9
    Cr: 1
    Sc: 4
    Lc: 2
    Esp: 16

    Defense:
    RL: 20
    LL: 16
    HL: 1
    IC: 7
    SSD: 1
    Najus
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    Post  Najus Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:23 am

    darth tiridactil wrote:Darth Gaius
    the problem with LL is that if someone attacks with heavy fodder u won't be able do destroy as many as you would with HL

    try simulating your def against LF and you'll see it is better with HL

    now the question is: do raiders use heavy LF fodder?

    personnally i do so i make my def in consequence.
    I tend to not leave myself as a profitable target, so the only people attacking me with LF fodder would be turtle smashers...
    In which case they would try to attack me no matter how much they lose, so defences are pretty much useless attack deterrents there...

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